A Numark V12 version like the V7's but only with a 12 inch platter

are you guys ever gonna come out with a Numark V12 a controller like the V7 but with a 12 inch Platter?????? Just a suggestion!
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    Or at least 10", + the motorised fader. Like Stanton SCS.1d
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  • Thanks for the support guys! This is something that i have heard requested a lot. We did make something like that in the past, tho...
    http://www.numark.com/product/cdx
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  • I would love this and would spend $799 if it had built in DVS built in it.
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  • Thanks for posting! This is one my most favorable and desirable requests. I'll definitely forward your request to our Numark team! Thanks again!
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  • This reply was created from a merged topic originally titled Numark V12?.

    we need single controllers , v12 ?
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  • Yup the CDX was a dream and I loved that controller but the motor definatly was an issue with the CD drive, but that was it. It had a screen on there that told the name of the songs.. NO body has a 12 inch platter. Numark would be the only one and nobody is brave enough to do it.. Change change the CDX to V7X. Problem solved.
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    Yeap and the only problem i had with my CDX's was the reading of the Control CD's for Serato, and also loading of store bought cds, when i had to go inside and unplug the ribbon and then plug it back in and hope that it would except my cds or time coded cds, i just left the screws out so i could get to the ribbon. But a V7 with a 12inch platter how hard can that be just a bigger body with all the same buttons, but pads would be great just like on the NS7ii and NS7iii. I would buy a pair on that strength alone. AND I KNOW A MILLION OTHER DJS WOULD TOO!!! Just a thought Numark!!!
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    V12 or ns12 would be a top seller.

    Especially if you do some upgrades in the pitch control and make it modular, so user can upgrade (screen, x86 cpu w Serato/Recordbox maybe a tonearm for real vinyl, etc, etc)
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    100% this can be the next standart in all dj booth .
    Why ? Because DVS adds a lot of stress to us . So many cables , so many problems always .
    We are all the time cleaning connections !

    For scratch Djs , a 7" is not enought .
    Do it big , we don't care .
    Think also about dicers :-)
    Do it simply : we don't need screens .

    what do you need to do it ? 1 million signatures ? :-)
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  • Best would be a 12" modular design with an affordable basic unit that could be upgraded later with:
    - Screen
    - Motorised Pitch-fader (like Stanton SCS.1d could be used on both pitch shifting and tempo adjustment in Serato DJ 1.8 or so)
    - Tonearm
    - x86 cpu (to get an upgraded Stanton scs4 kind of standalone product)

    make it available both per unit (like V7) and all-in one (like NS 7 II/III)

    Would sell my NS7II in a minute....
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  • Adam Majoros.. What would the tone arm before??

    The screen could be minimal and I the pads could be on the side the RE-Loop turntable. Our goal is to get this closet to a turntable as possible. If we add to many things then the price would be crazy. We want the price point to stay at the $799 or $899 range. Basically this would be the first 12 inch digital turntable that actually worked. IF a Dj wants all the bells and whistles then just stick with the controller. THis needs to be unique and a niche product. We aint worried about the masses!!!
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    Hi Numark! I usually just read but I had to say something on this. PLEASE make an updated V7. 12" or 10" platter, even stick to the 7" platter, doesn't matter. Yes a 10 or 12 would be optimum, but any continuation in a stand alone, quality, spinning platter with a piece of vinyl on top would be a win.

    I love my 1200s, lots of us do or did. And what I was always waiting for was something to replace it. Simple and straight forward. A few modern helpful technological tools is of course welcome. But it doesn't need to be everything nor does it need to keep up with the latest trends / fads / gimmicks. It should be timeless and universal with anyone who wants to do what they do with DVS without the added hassle and complexity of an analog unit interfacing with digital (and then back again). AKA the V7!

    Once the V7 was resurrected with the inclusion into Serato DJ, I finally found my replacement for my 1200s on DVS. The "feel" is there and is close enough. The size of the platter and minor difference in feel is more than made up for in the conveniences (lightweight, helpful modern tools and touches, no wear and tear parts, simpler, tight knit to software, etc).

    All I want is an updated and current V7, increase in platter size or not, dedicated to being THE replacement for turntables. Heck, start with the V7II. Keep it exactly as-is and take out or improve some of the things that didn't work out in the long run. Perfect the V7 now that it is on Serato DJ and see where it goes from there. I doubt I'm the only one who loves what the V7 is currently doing for our setups. It would just be nice to have it slightly updated to tie in closer with the software and improved with the lessons learned since its introduction.

    Lastly, to say what I do like most about it, I love it's high quality build. The V7 is pro stuff, right up there with the most dependable of my gear. Its slightly heavy and solid, a great balance of quality construction without it being overdone or needlessly overweight. Right about what I would expect from modern pro gear yet its very accessible to everyone. It has stood up to the stresses of mobile gigging, skratched and practiced on, whatever I've thrown at it. It has been as reliable as my 1200s, which is saying a lot. I never thought I would find anything that would do it, but the V7 replaced them in my setup and I haven't gone back. It makes me sad to have them sitting on the shelf only to play vinyl occasionally now but more happy at the same time that I was able to find a worthy and reliable replacement. I love it's simplicity and elegance, though it could be more of both. I think the value is phenomenal and kudos to Numark for making something that has stood the test of time, even beyond its initial intended environment it was supposed to work with. Here we are what 6 years later?, through a software migration, and a ton of more modern gear released after it, but to date I still haven't found anything at any price range to do what it does better. Not this simple, not without having to pay for things I don't need and want. And I doubt it can be outperformed. I have no complaints about performance at all.

    Sorry for the long-winded comment but thank you for reading. If you would like further detail or to chat more about it, please feel free to follow up with me. Thanks!
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  • I vote 10inch

    Loved my old V7 TTM combo and would have killed for a V10.

    Think 12 inch would just be a bit to much of a muchness considering how good V7, and NS7 perform.
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  • I’m encouraging
    I agree with this topic, the 12" platter would be a right fit complement to the already awesome product!
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    I love my V7's... 12's would be way too heavy and not portable...

    update the V7's put the iii's features on the V7's and allow for it to run 4 decks.
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  • I'd agree to that! maybe 12" is too big, but i'd be down for some 8"-10" platters.
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    Sorry to inform you guys, but it seems Numark is leaning towards new generation style music.
    In other words.... 12 inch platters are ideal for true hip hop djs.
    I happen to be one. The CDX cd turntable was hands down an awesome piece of tech. I havn't heard anything else that comes close to recreating that true vinyl sound and feel like a CDX.
    But, they are no longer available. and getting parts for them is a challenge in itself.
    The 45rpm size platters are as close as it gets now.
    If you're thinking of scratching with Numark V7s, go ahead. They also have great response and feel. The NS7 models are great as well.
    But the faders that Numark chose to use in them are total crap.
    My ns73 crossfader began to bleed after only 20 total hours of use. 20 hours!!
    My next step is to forget using Dj controllers for hip hop all together.
    Fyi, today's music is not hip hop.
    Turntables are the only real option. for those that complain about size and weight, might I suggest a can of spinach and some love for your craft.
    Sorry guys, there's no solution available for your issue with today's modern media controllers. If you want 12 inch platters, you gotta go with vinyl turntables and a serato interface.
    I highly doubt numark will create another 12 inch platter for such a small group of purest djs. The trend today is EDM and simple mixing. I'm not trendy.
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  • Numark acts pretty stupid on this question.
    I know that is pretty costy to develop a new product, but these cost are reducible for numark (as an InMusic member) with 80-90%.

    They have almost all the casting tools made already
    They have almost all the electronics already developed.
    They surly do have the efficient HR for it.

    What they do not know is the amount they could sell on the market.
    Mainly because they were never made a market leading product (neither in the TT or the mixer field)
    What they should make is the following
    a 12" AiO controller with modular upgrade capacity (tonearm for audio vinly, decicated PC with dedicated OS in 1 modul, LARGE 3 screen option like they demoed a few years ago before the NS7 III came)
    And they should team up either with RME or Focusrite for the best possible soundcard and driver (RME is the most stable for shure)
    They should launch a product page (without the Numark brand) to find out what the users up to
    They should lauch a kickstarter campagin to find their first buyers
    That is it!
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    Right now i really think they are not on the same page that we are??? but who knows they may come out with some type of controller for the turntableist.. But that now days is a small market for them they believe but they are truly wrong to think this. Ive been on the dj scene over 35 years and have embraced the technology but truthfully they need to go back to the basics and reinvent the NUMARK CDX but make it run serato dj without the cd bays, just like the Numark V7's, but with a lot of features of the NS7iii modules. I think that would be the move if any!!!
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    I'm also DJing 20 years ago.
    I looked how this technical field got "developed" from vinyl to CD to mp3.
    Surely the new-comers never touched vinyl and moving platter does not mean anything to them, but vinyl is coming back.... pretty good.
    Ant it gets trendy to play from vinyl again.
    So there is a market gap.
    A controller that plays both vinyl and other audio formats, and not a DVS that needs time consuming calibration, expensive and heavy stuffs wired all together.
    But a modular AiO solution so it can be a 4 channel controller, a CD player or a DVS like Turntable solution or even all these in one with an integrated Intel "core i" whatever with Serato that have 3 large touchscreen stuff (like the new Pioneer touring rig)
    It is not that complicated, but they should make it fast, 100% perfect, and they must decide if they makes it under Numark or Denon brand.
    Denon might be a better decision, since it is more premium "looking" category than Numark.
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  • I'd like to see either a 10" or 12" WITH the dope MPC pads, standard FX control section, and screen which can also display the Serato Video decks. This will more than likely fit better with a 10" than it would a 12". Basically, a larger modular NS7iii. Maybe even a power link passthrough. Add a USB 3.0 hub to link them together as well. Serato DJ Enabled of course. Dedicated Pitch N Time buttons section would be awesome.

    If you want to take it even further, add in a Standalone digital media (no optical) player feature to it as well. Maybe even get a little crazy and add that new Scratch Switch that's on the PT01 Scratch to each deck and make it able to be on either left or right side. The opposite slot could be for a Play/Cue buttons module. While we are still getting crazy, make the pitch fader (with PnT buttons) also modular so folks can decide which side they want it on if they want it mirrored or cloned so they have nothing to complain about since folks go nuts these days when they see a mirrored controller (It was odd for me at first but now I prefer it and it feels more ergonomic mirrored but I understand those who don't like it that way). The opposite module slot could be the dedicated 8 Cue Point buttons like my NS7ii has.

    Release a matching mixer for those who want a matching setup with the Touch Filter FX link (my favorite mixer feature on my NS7ii), Innofader, high quality upfaders and filter/eq pots (The ones on my NS7ii are horrible quality and become too loose as we all know), screen which can display Vertical waveforms as well as Serato Video master output, and must continue to have post-fader FX.
    For those that don't care about a matching setup, they have the ability to use whichever mixer they want.

    Modular, Modular, Modular all the way. That's my dream. Let's make it happen! If you ever actually make this dream setup, please reach out to me to test it out and give feedback since this is my dream and all.
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  • I appreciate the discussion that's continued through the months and even years on this topic. I don't know who, if anyone, that can use this feedback is even still following up on it, but at the very least it's nice to vent on the topic. Perhaps to inspire someone to use our opinions on the matter in their own project. I gave my detailed input above on the wishes of continuing the V7 about a year ago and that hasn't changed.

    About the topic of where the industry is and going to, and whether it caters to what we, those who came up in a vinyl only world, consider "hip hop", it's a valid one. I understand that you can use anything to mix any kind of music. But I think it is important to point out that yes, our way of mixing and scratching (along with the feel and other hardware requirements like a durable fader, rotating platter, etc) has gone the way of what we identify with as hip hop (practically extinct). It has been traded for hardware that doesn't have us in mind. At the very least not a priority. Not knocking Numark or the industry. You gotta make what will likely return the most money. But it's a reality we have to accept. So maybe the answer is appealing to their best interest? In saying that...

    I'd like to propose a "Classic" or "Forever" version of the V7 or v10 or v12 or whatever size is best for production cost and potential sales (no platter smaller than 7" though please). The features would be a simplified version of the existing V7, only including things that would be of solid help now and in the future. Nothing new or innovative, no gimmicks, and nothing that time hasn't already proven. Just features that universally appeal to anyone using Serato. As I pointed out in my previous comment:

    - The same or better platter function, precision and feel.
    - Buttons to cue, play and trigger a few samples (5-6 is fine)
    - Typical vinyl turntable controls and perhaps a few that could not be possible on analog hardware such as those already on the V7
    - Buttons to navigate Serato or perhaps even just USB drives for laptop-less operation
    - Basic FX options

    I think I basically just described the V7 which proves that it not too far off the mark of something that could be a timeless replacement to the 1200's or rather it's next evolution.

    And who would it be targeting? Really anyone who values an analog type of feel, prioritizing platter manipulation vs a cutting edge, innovative, and extensive feature set that keeps up with all the latest trends. Yet, would not be something that would necessarily leave a DJ behind. It would just value certain things over others: Feel, simplicity, timelessness, and reliability. It's not trying to be everything. Just things that are necessary to be comfortable, especially playing the music that needs that analog input that only a human can give.

    It can cost a little more. It can be better made. It can have improvements every once in a while to keep up with new can't-live-without Serato features. It can be connected to in order to expand it's functionality. It can finally be that turntable replacement everyone has always wanted but no one dared to build. And I think Numark can be the one to make it. In my opinion, they've gotten the closest so far. It's not really a stretch to believe that they could. Especially if those of us who desire such a thing to take the time to speak out about it.
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